{"id":16352,"date":"2021-09-22T01:27:00","date_gmt":"2021-09-21T23:27:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/?p=16352"},"modified":"2023-04-27T15:41:28","modified_gmt":"2023-04-27T13:41:28","slug":"a-passion-for-sustainable-social-innovation-leads-an-mba-grad-to-the-united-nations","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/a-passion-for-sustainable-social-innovation-leads-an-mba-grad-to-the-united-nations\/","title":{"rendered":"A passion for sustainable social innovation leads an MBA grad to the United Nations"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"506\" height=\"380\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/IMG_1303-506x380.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-16360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/IMG_1303-506x380.jpg 506w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/IMG_1303-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/IMG_1303-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/IMG_1303-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/IMG_1303-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/IMG_1303-678x509.jpg 678w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/IMG_1303-326x245.jpg 326w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/IMG_1303-80x60.jpg 80w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 506px) 100vw, 506px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Munich, Germany, 2020<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hi everyone and welcome to the Alumni Webinar Series at ESMT Berlin. I&#8217;m Chelsea Steensen, the alumni relations manager and today I&#8217;m joined by Alex&nbsp;Loz\u00e1n,&nbsp;who will be chatting with us about his experience and knowledge gained while working in social entrepreneurship with the United Nations.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So,&nbsp;Alex, can you first just tell us a bit about yourself and your ESMT journey?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Alex:<\/strong>&nbsp;Sure Chelsea, thank you for having me here. I&#8217;m very happy to join the webinar. I&#8217;m Alex&nbsp;Loz\u00e1n&nbsp;as said, I&#8217;m originally from&nbsp;Peru. I&nbsp;did my MBA with ESMT in 2016.&nbsp;I grew up in Peru in six cities across coasts, mountains, and the Amazon.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"506\" height=\"392\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/PE1-506x392.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-16364\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/PE1-506x392.jpg 506w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/PE1-300x232.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/PE1.jpg 541w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 506px) 100vw, 506px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Machu&nbsp;Picchu, Peru, 2005<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Because of my parents&#8217; jobs,&nbsp;I was very lucky when I was a child as&nbsp;I could&nbsp;experience&nbsp;different cultures, nature,&nbsp;and meet new&nbsp;people. Every two&nbsp;to&nbsp;three years we had to move and meet new friends&nbsp;and&nbsp;teachers&nbsp;and&nbsp;experience&nbsp;new flavors, markets,&nbsp;and&nbsp;playgrounds.&nbsp;So,&nbsp;I grew up already on the road, but then we moved to Lima when I was about to&nbsp;finish high school, start university,&nbsp;and work there.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As&nbsp;you might know, Peru is still a very centralized country so there are more opportunities for education and work in the capital,&nbsp;Lima.&nbsp;So,&nbsp;we moved there for that&nbsp;reason,&nbsp;and I did my bachelor&#8217;s degree in business administration. It was not the first choice I had in mind back then. As a kid, I wanted to be an engineer. I liked&nbsp;to build stuff, create, design.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I&nbsp;looked&nbsp;at different&nbsp;careers&nbsp;and&nbsp;discovered&nbsp;business&nbsp;administration and&nbsp;I&nbsp;liked it.&nbsp;It resonated with me&nbsp;because&nbsp;I&nbsp;saw that with&nbsp;that,&nbsp;I&nbsp;could&nbsp;create value, put it in the market,&nbsp;and make it useful&nbsp;for other&nbsp;people and&nbsp;it&nbsp;benefits society,&nbsp;nature, and&nbsp;people in a more holistic view.&nbsp;So,&nbsp;I&nbsp;went for it.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I&nbsp;studied&nbsp;at the&nbsp;Universidad&nbsp;Pacifico&nbsp;in&nbsp;Lima,&nbsp;one of the most&nbsp;prestigious universities&nbsp;in the country and&nbsp;I&nbsp;started when&nbsp;I&nbsp;was&nbsp;16.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Chelsea:<\/strong>&nbsp;Oh wow.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Alex:&nbsp;<\/strong>Yes, I&nbsp;was one of the youngest in the class&nbsp;and graduated when&nbsp;I&nbsp;was 21. Just after a semester of an exchange&nbsp;program in&nbsp;Hungary, I&nbsp;did an optional&nbsp;semester as an&nbsp;exchange&nbsp;student in&nbsp;Budapest at the&nbsp;Corvinus University of&nbsp;Budapest.&nbsp;That was an&nbsp;amazing,&nbsp;wonderful experience&nbsp;that opened my eyes&nbsp;and&nbsp;mind&nbsp;to the world and to&nbsp;an&nbsp;international&nbsp;career.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"506\" height=\"380\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Budapest1-1-506x380.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-16368\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Budapest1-1-506x380.jpg 506w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Budapest1-1-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Budapest1-1-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Budapest1-1-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Budapest1-1-678x509.jpg 678w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Budapest1-1-326x245.jpg 326w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Budapest1-1-80x60.jpg 80w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Budapest1-1.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 506px) 100vw, 506px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Budapest, Hungary,&nbsp;2006<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That&nbsp;is a bit of my&nbsp;origins.&nbsp;I&nbsp;shared&nbsp;this&nbsp;because&nbsp;this&nbsp;shaped a lot&nbsp;of&nbsp;who&nbsp;I&nbsp;am&nbsp;now and what&nbsp;I&nbsp;do. I&nbsp;worked&nbsp;for&nbsp;10 years in the private sector. It&#8217;s funny that the very first job I&nbsp;had was&nbsp;during university doing an internship in&nbsp;the&nbsp;Amazon region&nbsp;with an&nbsp;NGO&nbsp;supporting&nbsp;farmers,&nbsp;small-holder&nbsp;farmers in the&nbsp;Amazon to&nbsp;create or improve their business models,&nbsp;to improve their livelihoods and&nbsp;income.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That was my very first experience&nbsp;but then&nbsp;I&nbsp;went&nbsp;into the private sector&nbsp;for 10 years. Always&nbsp;working on&nbsp;entrepreneurial projects. First launching a brand of hardware&nbsp;in&nbsp;Peru,&nbsp;nationwide. Then&nbsp;I&nbsp;moved to&nbsp;Hungary&nbsp;again.&nbsp;I&nbsp;wanted to have work experience in&nbsp;Europe,&nbsp;so&nbsp;I&nbsp;worked there for three years expanding&nbsp;a&nbsp;commercial bank\u2019s&nbsp;service to&nbsp;Latin&nbsp;America.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Then&nbsp;I&nbsp;went back to&nbsp;Peru after a&nbsp;stopover&nbsp;of a year in&nbsp;Colombia. I&nbsp;worked in&nbsp;Peru&nbsp;for three years scaling&nbsp;up&nbsp;a food production plant.&nbsp;This was very entrepreneurial and gave me the opportunity to&nbsp;develop and collect leadership&nbsp;and&nbsp;managerial experience,&nbsp;which&nbsp;helped me realize that&nbsp;I&nbsp;wanted&nbsp;and&nbsp;needed to pursue the&nbsp;next&nbsp;step in my career,&nbsp;which was&nbsp;doing an&nbsp;MBA.&nbsp;This experience in&nbsp;Peru,&nbsp;particularly&nbsp;leading a&nbsp;scale-up,&nbsp;a company that&nbsp;started as a kitchen and&nbsp;then&nbsp;developed into&nbsp;a factory,&nbsp;helped me&nbsp;focus and narrow down&nbsp;what specific knowledge and skills&nbsp;I&nbsp;was missing or wanted to learn&nbsp;as a manager and&nbsp;that brought&nbsp;me&nbsp;to&nbsp;Berlin, Germany,&nbsp;to study the&nbsp;Full-time MBA&nbsp;at ESMT in 2016.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Chelsea:<\/strong>&nbsp;That sounds great.&nbsp;I&nbsp;would love to know a&nbsp;little bit more about what you&#8217;re doing&nbsp;now&nbsp;since graduation and how you&nbsp;were able to find yourself from an&nbsp;MBA&nbsp;at&nbsp;ESMT Berlin&nbsp;all the way to the&nbsp;United Nations.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Alex:<\/strong>&nbsp;Sure.&nbsp;So,&nbsp;for me, the ESMT&nbsp;experience&nbsp;began before&nbsp;deciding to apply to&nbsp;ESMT.&nbsp;For me, it was a journey. It was not just an MBA of one year, and that&nbsp;it&nbsp;will end there, just after 12 months. It&nbsp;was&nbsp;a year&nbsp;of&nbsp;thought,&nbsp;a block of three years.&nbsp;That&#8217;s how I&#8217;ve been living in&nbsp;my&nbsp;experience in different countries,&nbsp;in blocks of three years. As I mentioned before, three years in Peru,&nbsp;three years in&nbsp;Hungary, three years&nbsp;in Peru again.&nbsp;There&nbsp;are&nbsp;no hard cuts, it&#8217;s just&nbsp;giving certain&nbsp;planning&nbsp;time&nbsp;to think ahead.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So,&nbsp;for me,&nbsp;ESMT was a three-year journey&nbsp;more or less&nbsp;in&nbsp;the end. It&nbsp;was more&nbsp;that&nbsp;the&nbsp;first year was the program itself, which&nbsp;was very intense,&nbsp;from 9:00&nbsp;a.m.&nbsp;to 5:00&nbsp;p.m., the&nbsp;classes, then a few hours of&nbsp;work,&nbsp;teamwork, assignments, readings, case studies for the next day.&nbsp;So,&nbsp;it was from nine to nine, at least sometimes until 11. In a very intensive way.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"506\" height=\"285\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/2016-02-16_190431000_8D489_iOS-506x285.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-16372\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/2016-02-16_190431000_8D489_iOS-506x285.jpg 506w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/2016-02-16_190431000_8D489_iOS-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/2016-02-16_190431000_8D489_iOS-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/2016-02-16_190431000_8D489_iOS-678x381.jpg 678w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/2016-02-16_190431000_8D489_iOS.jpg 1328w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 506px) 100vw, 506px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Berlin, Germany, 2016<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You know, we were interacting often, in&nbsp;a diverse&nbsp;class with 64 classmates from 40 countries. We got some very rich experiences. The curriculum over the year was diverse,&nbsp;it went from managerial&nbsp;skills, design thinking, strategic&nbsp;training,&nbsp;to more practical&nbsp;exercises. I loved&nbsp;the work&nbsp;around&nbsp;innovation&nbsp;management, exercises&nbsp;on&nbsp;entrepreneurship, tools,&nbsp;and&nbsp;methodologies.&nbsp;We called&nbsp;that&nbsp;the&nbsp;entrepreneurship&nbsp;toolbox.&nbsp;This empowered me&nbsp;with knowledge, skills, and&nbsp;experience. In the meantime, in my free time out of class, I liked&nbsp;to explore the city.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Berlin is one of the most important hubs in Europe for innovation,&nbsp;entrepreneurship, and social entrepreneurship. The social impact community is quite big.&nbsp;It&nbsp;is one of the most important in Europe.&nbsp;So,&nbsp;I always tried&nbsp;to use that free time to connect with people in the city.&nbsp;Every day,&nbsp;there was an event&nbsp;or&nbsp;a webinar&nbsp;(in-person back then)&nbsp;to connect,&nbsp;network, learn,&nbsp;and just mingle with the community.&nbsp;I took every chance I could to explore.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So that year was very focused on developing skills,&nbsp;experience,&nbsp;knowledge,&nbsp;and&nbsp;the international field seminar.&nbsp;It&nbsp;was&nbsp;a&nbsp;very rich&nbsp;experience.&nbsp;ESMT&nbsp;provided&nbsp;students&nbsp;with the opportunity&nbsp;to&nbsp;gain&nbsp;exposure and experience with&nbsp;social impact.&nbsp;That was one of the reasons why I joined ESMT.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I had known about the Responsible Leadership Fellowship before applying to ESMT. I kind of knew already where I was going to\u00a0go,\u00a0and I just confirmed that during the MBA. I did my Responsible Leadership Fellowship in Cape Town, in South Africa, in a\u00a0business school that\u00a0provides degrees to students that come from\u00a0previously\u00a0disadvantaged communities.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In South Africa, access to education&nbsp;has been&nbsp;limited, especially for certain groups or ethnicities.&nbsp;So,&nbsp;this university&nbsp;gives scholarships and degrees to students from these communities.&nbsp;Part of their&nbsp;business model is to onboard volunteer lecturers,&nbsp;national&nbsp;and&nbsp;international,&nbsp;to contribute to the curriculum and teach students. I was one of them. I was teaching entrepreneurship and business management to students from the first year to the last year of the undergraduate program. I also&nbsp;helped&nbsp;organize&nbsp;a&nbsp;consulting program for micro-entrepreneurs in South Africa, in cooperation with&nbsp;a&nbsp;university in the US&nbsp;that was visiting the university every semester.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"506\" height=\"337\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Responsible-Leadership-Fellowship-1-506x337.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-16376\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Responsible-Leadership-Fellowship-1-506x337.jpg 506w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Responsible-Leadership-Fellowship-1-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Responsible-Leadership-Fellowship-1-768x511.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/Responsible-Leadership-Fellowship-1.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 506px) 100vw, 506px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Cape Town, South Africa, 2017<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In South Africa, I learned two things, well many things, but&nbsp;the ones&nbsp;I&nbsp;want to&nbsp;mention today&nbsp;for the topic are&nbsp;first, the concept, the definition,&nbsp;of social entrepreneurship.&nbsp;Working with students, working with this university that came from the&nbsp;US,&nbsp;teaching entrepreneurship,&nbsp;focusing&nbsp;on solving social problems,&nbsp;and&nbsp;measuring impact and&nbsp;financial sustainability,&nbsp;made me realize that there was a name for what I wanted to do or what I was already doing:&nbsp;social entrepreneurship.&nbsp;It&nbsp;gave me that direction to&nbsp;where&nbsp;I wanted to go.&nbsp;When I came back to Germany, I&nbsp;focused on getting more immersed in&nbsp;the&nbsp;social entrepreneurship world.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The second thing I&nbsp;learned,&nbsp;was from the&nbsp;students.&nbsp;One can focus on the social problem&nbsp;and&nbsp;the&nbsp;potential impact,&nbsp;one can create to help society,&nbsp;nature, people, and then build&nbsp;the&nbsp;business model that will make the impact become&nbsp;financially sustainable.&nbsp;I learned from the students&nbsp;that this is possible&nbsp;and that it should be the way of working.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I was happily surprised many times when I heard from students&nbsp;who&nbsp;would come to me to pitch an idea&nbsp;that was&nbsp;fully focused on the impact,&nbsp;the potential impact&nbsp;they&nbsp;could create.&nbsp;They would sometimes forget&nbsp;what business they would make around it or&nbsp;if they would be able to make money out of it.&nbsp;But they would&nbsp;not worry about it. They just wanted&nbsp;it to solve a problem.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So,&nbsp;my role there was to tell them&nbsp;it is&nbsp;great and perfect that you&#8217;re focusing on the social problem, but you&nbsp;must&nbsp;also&nbsp;find&nbsp;the business around it, or otherwise, it would be a charity program or&nbsp;philanthropy program that might not succeed or continue in the&nbsp;long-term.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I brought this learning with me to Europe to expand and share it with others.&nbsp;Interestingly, I found the same experience, the same pitches from&nbsp;older people, more mature, more prepared professionals in Europe. People who were&nbsp;focusing on social problems but not&nbsp;on&nbsp;the financial sustainability. And that&#8217;s&nbsp;actually what&nbsp;I do now. I help social entrepreneurs&nbsp;build from design,&nbsp;the business models that will create value for people, planet, profit, and build&nbsp;a sustainable business model or financial business model to sustain it.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Chelsea:<\/strong>&nbsp;I think the one main point that you kept&nbsp;emphasizing is&nbsp;sustainability.&nbsp;So,&nbsp;I am&nbsp;curious to know, can sustainability work its way into a societal norm, such as feeding the hungry, and what are some major challenges that you can see&nbsp;with regards to&nbsp;making something sustainable in today&#8217;s world?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Alex:<\/strong>&nbsp;Sustainability is&nbsp;particularly important, big word&nbsp;and topic, and it&#8217;s not new.&nbsp;Organizations have been working around it for many years.&nbsp;It&#8217;s probably getting more attention now with the social problems that we are seeing more obviously. Now with the things&nbsp;like&nbsp;climate,&nbsp;war, the pandemic, for example, they are becoming more obvious.&nbsp;This topic was always there.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The&nbsp;first challenge&nbsp;that&nbsp;I see is&nbsp;that&nbsp;there is&nbsp;still&nbsp;low awareness&nbsp;of the importance of thinking,&nbsp;working,&nbsp;and designing businesses&nbsp;sustainably or thinking&nbsp;about&nbsp;sustainability and with sustainability.&nbsp;With sustainability, I mean the exceptions to the definitions, two approaches at this&nbsp;point. One,&nbsp;the financial sustainability,&nbsp;meaning&nbsp;that the programs, the social projects&nbsp;are&nbsp;going to&nbsp;survive,&nbsp;and&nbsp;then&nbsp;the environmental&nbsp;and&nbsp;the social components of sustainability,&nbsp;meaning&nbsp;that&nbsp;the program, the project is going to create value for the society. They are often&nbsp;mixed&nbsp;up,&nbsp;they are separate, and they should work in parallel. The lack of&nbsp;awareness&nbsp;would&nbsp;be the first challenge&nbsp;or&nbsp;rather&nbsp;low awareness.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The second&nbsp;challenge&nbsp;is that sustainability, in many cases is still seen as a nice to have&nbsp;program and part of the strategy or&nbsp;a&nbsp;functional unit or extra work that&nbsp;an&nbsp;organization&nbsp;must&nbsp;do to&nbsp;be seen as being&nbsp;a&nbsp;socially&nbsp;responsible organization,&nbsp;or to report by obligation to certain governmental regulations.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I think if I had to prioritize, I would focus on the second&nbsp;challenge,&nbsp;to improve work&nbsp;in&nbsp;sustainability.&nbsp;It&nbsp;shouldn\u2019t&nbsp;be &#8220;a nice to have&#8221;&nbsp;unit or workstream. For me,&nbsp;sustainability&nbsp;should be the start of&nbsp;the ideation, of&nbsp;the strategy process of a company, an organization, and then build the rest of the strategy around it. There are cases that prove&nbsp;that&nbsp;it is&nbsp;possible that a company can build sustainable growth and&nbsp;be&nbsp;successful in terms of profits, starting with sustainability.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Chelsea:&nbsp;<\/strong>I think there&#8217;s a mentality that sometimes companies feel that this is&nbsp;a&nbsp;checklist item so that they&#8217;re going to say: We have a CSR program. We&#8217;re&nbsp;very&nbsp;philanthropic. We do all&nbsp;of&nbsp;this&nbsp;so we&#8217;ll put that out in the&nbsp;press,&nbsp;and we&#8217;ll&nbsp;have our gold star for the day.&nbsp;But the concept of getting things to be continuously sustainable&nbsp;is&nbsp;sometimes considered a money drain, so to speak,&nbsp;that they&#8217;re taking away from their potential profits.&nbsp;So,&nbsp;what would you say to organizations that are currently in that mindset? How&nbsp;can&nbsp;we change their minds and support them in&nbsp;becoming&nbsp;more sustainable moving&nbsp;forward?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Alex:&nbsp;<\/strong>Now I can think of two things. First, try it. Not necessarily as a complete change in the five-year strategic plan of the company, although, that would be the ideal scenario. But if you&#8217;re still learning how to approach it, how to integrate&nbsp;sustainability&nbsp;into the strategy, try it with&nbsp;pilots and try with controls, in controlled&nbsp;spaces&nbsp;with different circumstances, conditions, and see how they work and how they&nbsp;benefit&nbsp;your organization.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The second one is,&nbsp;listen to your&nbsp;people, your team.&nbsp;Usually,&nbsp;it&#8217;s in the core of the organization in its people, where you can find the sources of purpose and ideas&nbsp;that will tackle such social problems.&nbsp;We can see more of this&nbsp;now;&nbsp;I see more often&nbsp;young and older professionals wanting to include social impact components&nbsp;to&nbsp;their&nbsp;career or to work with purpose.&nbsp;Sometimes that&#8217;s a deal-breaker to join or not to join a company. They see that the organization is working towards a social agenda.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Chelsea:<\/strong>&nbsp;Definitely. I think that&#8217;s more relevant as we&nbsp;continue on&nbsp;with society to think, okay, what is my company doing to build into that social entrepreneurship field.&nbsp;You also mentioned previously working with social opportunity entrepreneurs and helping build their organizations,&nbsp;companies,&nbsp;and their ideas. Would you be able to&nbsp;give&nbsp;us&nbsp;an&nbsp;example of one of the projects you&#8217;re currently working on and how you support&nbsp;it&nbsp;through that idea?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Alex:&nbsp;<\/strong>Yes. I&nbsp;am working in&nbsp;an&nbsp;innovation accelerator.&nbsp;I&#8217;ll give you a bit of background of the&nbsp;organization&nbsp;and the work we do. We&nbsp;are supporting&nbsp;the&nbsp;United Nations\u2019&nbsp;largest humanitarian&nbsp;agency, which is called the&nbsp;<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wfp.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">World&nbsp;Food&nbsp;Programme<\/a>.&nbsp;The mission of the organization is to&nbsp;work towards ending hunger. 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In&nbsp;the end,&nbsp;the goal is to create a way to reach as&nbsp;many people as possible as fast as possible, helping to reduce the&nbsp;substantial number&nbsp;of&nbsp;619 million people&nbsp;who&nbsp;are going to bed hungry every day.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For example, one of my favorite projects that we have in the accelerator is called&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/innovation.wfp.org\/project\/building-blocks\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Building&nbsp;Blocks<\/a>.&nbsp;It&#8217;s a solution that is based&nbsp;on technology, in this case&nbsp;on blockchain&nbsp;technology&nbsp;to help&nbsp;refugees in Jordan and Bangladesh.&nbsp;At the moment,&nbsp;more&nbsp;than a million refugees receive cash assistance, cash transfers&nbsp;via&nbsp;a digital wallet that they can use to purchase food<s>s<\/s>&nbsp;at&nbsp;the markets&nbsp;and&nbsp;refugee camps.&nbsp;This&nbsp;may sound very normal, very mainstream&nbsp;to&nbsp;people&nbsp;in Europe or developing countries, but there, it was&nbsp;a&nbsp;challenge&nbsp;to transfer&nbsp;money in&nbsp;a complex environment where there is no&nbsp;infrastructure&nbsp;for&nbsp;it&nbsp;and it is&nbsp;pretty expensive.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now with&nbsp;the use of this technology,&nbsp;they are saving&nbsp;time&nbsp;delivering the assistance they need. They are&nbsp;also reducing a lot of costs in bank fees or transfers.&nbsp;They&nbsp;are&nbsp;empowering the community&nbsp;and&nbsp;people&nbsp;by&nbsp;generating data.&nbsp;It&nbsp;is very important to know which&nbsp;food&nbsp;we&nbsp;need to deliver, which&nbsp;products, which&nbsp;quantities&nbsp;and quality,&nbsp;to&nbsp;understand&nbsp;them&nbsp;and serve them in a better way.&nbsp;That&#8217;s one of the projects I like that is connected to new technologies.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Another&nbsp;project&nbsp;we are working on&nbsp;which is not related to tech support&nbsp;is&nbsp;the&nbsp;Farm to Market Alliance&nbsp;that is currently&nbsp;running in&nbsp;Kenya and Rwanda. The goal is to support smallholder farmers, farmers with around an acre of land,&nbsp;to grow food for themselves and to sell the surplus to the markets. These farmers account for a high proportion of that number I gave you&nbsp;before,&nbsp;619 million people who go to bed hungry every day.&nbsp;It&#8217;s ironic&nbsp;how&nbsp;it&#8217;s the farmers&nbsp;who are the&nbsp;producers&nbsp;of food for the&nbsp;rest of the world who&nbsp;are the ones suffering from hunger. And&nbsp;why?&nbsp;Because of market&nbsp;conditions,&nbsp;because of the way the market has been designed, or because they don&#8217;t have the&nbsp;right&nbsp;training,&nbsp;knowledge, techniques, tools, or&nbsp;inputs&nbsp;in the farm to&nbsp;make the most out of their lands.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So, what the project does is bring together different players. It&#8217;s an alliance, so they bring great players from the private and public sectors to support these farmers in the last mile. They help them with training, with better seeds. They teach them how&nbsp;to identify which&nbsp;products they need to improve&nbsp;in terms of&nbsp;productivity,&nbsp;storage, and&nbsp;how&nbsp;to reduce the losses&nbsp;and&nbsp;have more food,&nbsp;produce,&nbsp;and income at the end&nbsp;by&nbsp;trading&nbsp;it at the right place,&nbsp;right time, and&nbsp;with the right methodologies. So,&nbsp;ultimately,&nbsp;they can increase their income and improve their livelihoods and that of their&nbsp;families, and&nbsp;help&nbsp;them out of poverty and out of hunger.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"506\" height=\"380\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/AL-506x380.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-16388\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/AL-506x380.jpg 506w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/AL-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/AL-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/AL-678x509.jpg 678w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/AL-326x245.jpg 326w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/AL-80x60.jpg 80w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/AL.jpg 976w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 506px) 100vw, 506px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Nampula, Mozambique, 2021<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We support this project from the accelerator&nbsp;through&nbsp;mentorship on scaling,&nbsp;business&nbsp;skills,&nbsp;and&nbsp;techniques. We also&nbsp;support them by&nbsp;connecting them&nbsp;with&nbsp;other&nbsp;international&nbsp;partners&nbsp;to support their costs in kind or in cash to boost their growth and reach&nbsp;more&nbsp;farmers in the region. We&nbsp;facilitate and bring them&nbsp;into&nbsp;creative&nbsp;environments to strategize and think further&nbsp;about their&nbsp;future plans.&nbsp;I&#8217;m personally working with them on a&nbsp;day-to-day&nbsp;basis.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I&#8217;ve learned a lot from that project. I enjoy working with the farmers and it\u2019s interesting because this brings me back to my very first job in Peru when I was working with farmers,&nbsp;helping them with their business models. I&#8217;m now doing the same but&nbsp;on&nbsp;another platform. We have 12&nbsp;other&nbsp;projects that are scaling and almost&nbsp;another&nbsp;hundred projects that&nbsp;have&nbsp;come through&nbsp;the accelerator to&nbsp;prove their idea,&nbsp;kill it, or build&nbsp;the prototype and find proof of concept,&nbsp;value,&nbsp;and then scale. That&#8217;s how we are supporting them&nbsp;at the moment.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"506\" height=\"380\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/IMG_7590-506x380.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-16384\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/IMG_7590-506x380.jpg 506w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/IMG_7590-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/IMG_7590-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/IMG_7590-678x509.jpg 678w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/IMG_7590-326x245.jpg 326w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/IMG_7590-80x60.jpg 80w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/IMG_7590.jpg 1176w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 506px) 100vw, 506px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em><em>Nakuru, Kenya, 2020<\/em><\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Chelsea:<\/strong>&nbsp;I think it&#8217;s really important&nbsp;that&nbsp;you say we&#8217;re going to educate them, we&#8217;re going to show them how to do it, and then they can go ahead and reproduce the same kind of concepts and ideas as well as networking. I think that&#8217;s something that we take for granted a lot of the time,&nbsp;that it&#8217;s one thing to have the education&nbsp;to&nbsp;get started on a certain topic, but then you have the network to go ahead&nbsp;and come&nbsp;to the farming aspect. You are working with other&nbsp;farmers;&nbsp;you&#8217;re working within the markets.&nbsp;Really keeping that back to the trigger word&nbsp;is&nbsp;sustainability. I think that&#8217;s amazing.&nbsp;So, I will&nbsp;come to my final questions&nbsp;for today, which is one, where do you see the future of social entrepreneurship growing and how can someone who&#8217;s interested in social entrepreneurship get involved? What types of things and activities can they do themselves to get to where you are, for example?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Alex:<\/strong>&nbsp;I mentioned before two challenges, the&nbsp;low&nbsp;awareness&nbsp;and the approach to sustainability. I see this shifting in a positive or in the right direction. I see that more people are&nbsp;aware and&nbsp;willing to work in social entrepreneurship or in projects with purpose and&nbsp;social impact-driven&nbsp;on a&nbsp;professional level,&nbsp;and&nbsp;government and corporate level.&nbsp;So,&nbsp;we will see more companies wanting to incorporate social entrepreneurship into their&nbsp;strategies or giving the space to their people to work in social entrepreneurship projects.&nbsp;I&nbsp;have&nbsp;seen&nbsp;companies designing&nbsp;for example&nbsp;sabbatical programs for people who want to do social work for months&nbsp;and&nbsp;they sometimes also connect&nbsp;social enterprises&nbsp;to make this pro bono work&nbsp;much&nbsp;easier,&nbsp;without&nbsp;losing or risking their jobs back home.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You also see governments promoting and better regulating social entrepreneurship.&nbsp;Traditionally, we have&nbsp;nonprofit&nbsp;and&nbsp;for-profit&nbsp;companies&nbsp;but&nbsp;it&#8217;s hard to see some entity in the middle that can receive&nbsp;both&nbsp;donations&nbsp;and&nbsp;income. That&#8217;s something that the governments are still struggling to regulate and promote, but there are good examples of&nbsp;good practices on that.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But&nbsp;most importantly, I see more awareness and willingness from people.&nbsp;People are realizing that for example, we have 690 million people&nbsp;living with hunger&nbsp;every day. Yet&nbsp;we live in a world where&nbsp;there is enough food for everyone to eat&nbsp;and&nbsp;one-third of it is lost or wasted.&nbsp;Not because of a production&nbsp;problem, but because of distribution problems&nbsp;and&nbsp;there&nbsp;are many figures and examples that people are seeing and realizing that, yeah, we&nbsp;have to&nbsp;play a role here too.&nbsp;It&#8217;s not something that&#8217;s another person&#8217;s job&nbsp;or up to&nbsp;NGOs&nbsp;or not-for-profits to solve.&nbsp;It&#8217;s our responsibility to tackle that.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As in many other topics in life,&nbsp;in&nbsp;career,&nbsp;or personal growth, my advice is to&nbsp;follow your passions. I make it plural because it&#8217;s not one passion. We have multiple&nbsp;passions,&nbsp;and they&nbsp;develop, or we discover them on the way.&nbsp;Take the time to identify them, describe them,&nbsp;and&nbsp;visualize them. I like to&nbsp;draw&nbsp;them&nbsp;on&nbsp;a&nbsp;whiteboard. I used to do this too&nbsp;as I was learning.&nbsp;Especially after I came back from South Africa and&nbsp;after the&nbsp;MBA. I would&nbsp;draw them and see where I would find myself in a sweet spot. Then focus on three things.&nbsp;Get&nbsp;the knowledge about what&nbsp;social entrepreneurship is&nbsp;and&nbsp;break it down, what&nbsp;social&nbsp;means, what entrepreneurship means,&nbsp;and go and learn.&nbsp;There are many sources and platforms and cost-effective&nbsp;ways&nbsp;where you can learn and build this knowledge and skills.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The second one is network. Get immersed in the community, meet people in the field.&nbsp;Berlin, for example, has a very good community&nbsp;with organizations&nbsp;like the&nbsp;Impact&nbsp;Hub,&nbsp;MakeSense,&nbsp;the&nbsp;Social&nbsp;Impact&nbsp;Lab.&nbsp;Go and talk to them.&nbsp;That&#8217;s one of the things that I like in the sector&nbsp;&#8211;&nbsp;the community. They are&nbsp;really open&nbsp;and happy to share their journeys and experiences. From that, you will learn what social&nbsp;entrepreneurs do.&nbsp;I&#8217;m sure&nbsp;that you&nbsp;will find&nbsp;out that it&#8217;s something that you have been doing for a&nbsp;while without knowing&nbsp;it. That happened to me.&nbsp;It&nbsp;will help you connect and find opportunities where you can join their community.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"506\" height=\"380\" src=\"https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/al-2-506x380.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-16392\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/al-2-506x380.jpg 506w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/al-2-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/al-2-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/al-2-678x509.jpg 678w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/al-2-326x245.jpg 326w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/al-2-80x60.jpg 80w, https:\/\/blog.esmt.berlin\/voices\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/08\/al-2.jpg 798w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 506px) 100vw, 506px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Addis Ababa, Ethiopia, 2019<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Third, and maybe it&#8217;s one of the most important, get exposure and get your hands dirty. For example, volunteering or offering yourself for pro bono consulting. Or even&nbsp;just volunteer for specific projects to support&nbsp;organizations and not only one, try different&nbsp;ones.&nbsp;You can learn&nbsp;by&nbsp;doing what you like the most,&nbsp;what sparks your happiness, your passions,&nbsp;and&nbsp;also&nbsp;where you can add value.&nbsp;In my case,&nbsp;it&nbsp;was&nbsp;the business mindset, the business and financial approach to&nbsp;social&nbsp;impact&nbsp;where&nbsp;I saw that&nbsp;I&nbsp;can&nbsp;add&nbsp;more value.&nbsp;This will&nbsp;bring you back to the beginning,&nbsp;to the passions. As you get your hands dirty and get immersed in the community and learn the skills,&nbsp;you will&nbsp;validate, confirm,&nbsp;or maybe find&nbsp;new passions. That\u2019s&nbsp;what&nbsp;I always share with people&nbsp;about&nbsp;what worked&nbsp;in my case to&nbsp;arrive at this stage where&nbsp;I&nbsp;enjoy&nbsp;every day&nbsp;what I do.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Chelsea:<\/strong>&nbsp;That&nbsp;is a great ending statement.&nbsp;I want to thank you again Alex for&nbsp;an&nbsp;interesting and engaging discussion today&nbsp;and thank&nbsp;our viewers for engaging with EMT Berlin&#8217;s&nbsp;Alumni&nbsp;Webinar&nbsp;Series.&nbsp;So,&nbsp;until next time, please stay safe and healthy. Thank you.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>This transcript has been edited for clarity.&nbsp;<\/em>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/glGavK7tQPw\" title=\"YouTube video player\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen=\"\"><\/iframe>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p><span class=\"rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\"><\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\">12<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">min read<\/span><\/span> Hi everyone and welcome to the Alumni Webinar Series at ESMT Berlin. 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